mitt romney remains down in the state of ohio. that is one his campaign believes he must win to get to 270 electoral votes. he's down six, 51%-45% in that state. however, mitt romney got on a wave in denver last week and paul ryan has a chance tonight, guys, to continue that momentum, an interesting match-up, we've seen it before of an older, experienced vice president, a younger less tested running mate. we saw it with dick cheney and with john edwards in 2004. dick cheney got the better of that. we saw it with lloyd benson and dan quayle in 1988. it appeared that lloyd benson got the better of that, but of course george bush and dan quayle won the election. i talked to dan quayle yesterday -- or a few days ago, rather, he said he thinks he helped george h.w. bush in that race, even though he got smacked down with that "you're no jack kennedy" line, because he took the fight to michael dukakis and that's the bottom line that you hear from people who have been through these debates, is that the key for vice presidential candidates